. >> my name is michael. my question is kind of about how they are going to end of defining the boundaries of ats with this case. it seems to me from the hearings, one of the ways they might try to limit this is the nexus to the united states. in this case, the connections seem to be -- the plaintiffs are now living here, found the seidlin year. you feel that is more of the nexus to the u.s. than sosa? or less of one? is this stretching it? is it would then the boundaries the aborted gone before it? -- with than the boundaries that have already gone before it? >> the connection to the united states was less than it is in this case. i did not know if that is the way they're going to go. one of the issues that we have not even touched on is the statute as an alternative to litigation in state courts. everybody agrees that our plan -- there is no question about that. all the same issues would come up in terms of other kinds of problems. there are loads of jurisdictions around the world the exercise -- including